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[OR Ss4] Create Cross Section Preferences - General tab - Scale Issues

March 18, 2019, 10:12 am
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We are trying to setup Standard Preferences for our users. The Create Cross Section Preferences are coming from a migrated XIN, so there are some minor changes to the XIN that have no default values in our migrated preferences. In particular, on the General tab, the Scale value, based upon our workspace, defaults to 1:12.

We have a modified units.def, sheetsizes.def and scales.def. Our 1" = 50' is the equivalent of a ratio scale of 50:1 and not 600:1 as it should be. (This was setup long ago before I got here, and I'm not sure we can change it without screwing up thousands of existing files. It appears that this is reconciled within our sheetsize.def file where the sizes are in inches, but the file defines them as feet.)

So what does this have to do with Cross Section Preferences? Well. the Default that loads when our saved preference has no model scale, 1:12 corresponds with our 1:1 (under the Direct scale names section of our units.def file).

But while that seems a little odd, If I try to set the Scale value to our standard cross section scale of 1" = 10' and save that as a preference, when reloaded, the Scale will change to 1:125. which is 10.41666666666667:1 under the Direct scale names. 10.41666666666667 X 12 = 125.

I than added a 1:120; 10:1 and a 1:600; 50:1 to the Direct scale names section and ran a few more tests. 

When I save the scale of 1:120 or 1" - 10' in a preference, when reloaded, it still defaults the display to 1:125

When I save the scale of 1:600 or 1" = 50' in a preference, when reloaded, it displays a scale of 1:600. 

In the XIN, the one that displays 1:125 is actually saving ModelScale="10.000000" and the one that displays 1:600 is saving ModelScale="50.000000"

So the issue seems to be the value the dialog box displays and not the value it actually uses. However, this is disconcerting. We are not too keen on instructing users to ignore a dialog box setting. On the other hand, it appears that if one has to change the model scale after the fact, their seems to be no adverse effects. 

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ORD - Remove feature definition from line

March 18, 2019, 12:03 pm
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communities.bentley.com/.../aa.dgn

Is there a way to remove feature definition from lines or arcs?  I have added feature definition to normal Microstation lines to used them in corridor but now I would like to remove the feature definition from them.  Or at least drop them but every time I drop them they disapear from the drawing.  Is this a normal behavior?

Also is there a way to just drop civil offset line to normal microstation line without feature definition?

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printing multiple cross sections in ORD

March 18, 2019, 1:46 pm
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i'm not sure who to start setup of what I have created already.  I watched a few videos and read through forums.  but not finding anything similar to what I have.

Any help would be great, Thanks.

Here is what my cross sections look like currently.  I have about 300+ that spread across my model view.

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[ORD] Geometry Replace/Substitute Tools?

March 18, 2019, 7:15 pm
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Hi,

Does anyone know when we will get formalised releases of tools to swap relationships of elements from one Geometry element to another, like the undocumented GEOMETRY ELEMENT REPLACE key In.

This seems to work well, but a tool like the GEOMETRY SUBSTITUTE command that essentially swaps all relationships, profiles, properties, etc (element ID) is what we urgently need to maintain productivity when geometry gets corrupted (that unfortunately happens more often than we would like) and we have many files using this data as a reference. So far the tool seems too buggy to use on live projects (crashes often).

By far the missing link in effective use of relationships for real projects.. 

Regards,

Mark

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Is there anyone out there that knows how to configure the Applications Menu in Microstation SS3 to load InRoads SS2 on ProjectWise CONNECT?

March 14, 2019, 10:25 am
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Is there anyone out there that knows how to configure the Applications Menu in Microstation SS3 to load InRoads SS2 on ProjectWise CONNECT?

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ORD Warning about BSplines

March 19, 2019, 4:43 am
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Does anyone know what is the significance of this warning generated from the Linear Template command. Obviously, the command prefers spirals to splines but:

  •  Why does such a preference rise to the level of requiring a warning box to pop up?
  • Are there accuracy issues in play? If so, in what way? For certain complex geometry, bsplines would seem to always be more accurate than force fitting a spiral. Example: it is mathematically impossible to generate an offset spiral. All solutions which offset a spiral which results in a spiral are always approximations.
  • Are there performance or stability issues in play? Are spiral faster than splines?

One would assume that by choosing to interrupt my work with such an ominous warning that there is something legitimate and real in play under the hood.  If this is the case then shouldn't the warning be generated at the time I create the geometry instead of days or works later when I am applying a linear template? After all, the warning explicitly states "Consider recreate...".  Recreating things takes time and negates work already done. And what if the geometry was generated by another designer.

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SHEET NUMBERS

March 19, 2019, 8:35 am
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I have setup my tile block and i have plotted the cross section drawings. i have been adding them to the sheet index but when i plot the cross section pdfs from the print organiser, the drawing numbers do not appear.

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ORD Update 4 - Problem With Multiple Profile Annotations In Drawing Model

March 19, 2019, 10:45 am
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My issue has happened on several different projects.  I will create a plan and profile sheet with the Named Boundary tool.  When I annotate the drawing model for the profile, I will get from 2 to 18 multiple annotation labels stacked on top of each other.  These annotations will also not delete when I try to remove the model annotations.  I have to manually select them with the Element Selection tool in order to delete them.  When I re-annotate, I get the same problem.  

I have also had issues with the plan stationing annotations.  Initially, everything looks good.  I will go to another .dgn file and then come back to the plan drawing model and the stationing is in correct.  I have to remove annotation and then re-annotate if fix it.  

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Tying Mainline and Sideroad Shoulders

March 19, 2019, 12:32 pm
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What would be the best way to make this sideroad shoulder tie to the mainline shoulder pictured below? The sideroad is to the left and the mainline is to the right.

I am in the sideroad corridor file and the mainline file is referenced in. I treid using a horizontal feature constraint but the limit point from the sideroad template was not seeking the mainline ditch area.

Thank you for your help

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AutoCAD conversion from OpenRoads Designer - Profile View

March 19, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Hi,

I need to export an annotated profile from OpenRoads Designer to AutoCAD. The export was successful for linework and the grid text, however the annotation text and curve data text is not displaying correctly (shown as 0's in screenshot below). Is anyone aware of a solution to this issue? 

AutoCAD export - 2016 version - 2013-2017 compatible

OpenRoads Designer

Thank you,

Robert

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OpenRoads - LID elements

March 20, 2019, 4:51 am
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Hi,

I use Open Roads with SewerGEMS licence and I would like to model LID elements. In components-runoff there is LID tool. But what can I do to design a LID/catchment? I couldn't find any articles with steps.

Please if you refer to any article as reply, refer to OpenRoads software.

Thank you in advance. 

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ORD profile creation

March 20, 2019, 8:22 am
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In ORD, I have used the "Project Profile to Element" command to create a 3D linear element. How can I later undo that operation and make it a 2D feature?

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[OR Ss4] Create Cross Sections vs Dynamic Sections - Crossing Point Issues

March 20, 2019, 9:53 am
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We discovered an issue today that leaves us puzzled. Our Feature Definitions are finally nearly where we need them to be. When in the dynamic Cross Section View. our Corridor Breakline Features are displaying in a manner that is consistent with their feature definitions. These are coming from an XIN Native Style. However, when we use the Create Cross Section tool, they are not following the settings but are displaying at various sizes and not on the correct level. The only thing that seems to work correctly is the color. We have created levels for Components that are unique from features yet all of the crossing points are using one of the component levels.

The XIN has been searched and there is no reason for the level that is being used should apply to crossing features. It appears to be some kind of a bug, since the dynamic cross sections seem to WAD.

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How can i use the International Roughness Index with the verticale adjustment Profile in open roads designer

March 20, 2019, 10:49 am
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How can i use the International Roughness Index with the verticale adjustment Profile in open roads designer

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Point Cell display in OpenRoads Cross Sections

March 20, 2019, 12:58 pm
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Folks:

I have been easily able to present linear crossing features on cross sections (ROW lines, etc.), but am a bit confused as how to get point features to display (one may imagine an existing surveyed water valve or some other "point" which one desires to have displayed at a particular event station- left or right of Centerline within a cross section set).

Where does one define an element template in order to get such to occur?

Mark

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Named boundary offset incorrectly

March 20, 2019, 4:56 pm
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Hi All,

I am having some trouble with a named boundary being offset slighty when using the civil plan feature of the named boundary tool to produce sheet models.

As you can see. The clipped boundary gets offset slightly.
This only seems to happen when using the alignment in the attached file.
Previously this geomtry had a station equation attached. However, I have set to zero and the issue still remains.
When creating a new alignment or using a new piece of geomtery, it works fine.

communities.bentley.com/.../1488.Geometry.dgn

Has anyone experienced similar? If so, what was the solution?

Thanks

Liam

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Drainage Profile Display Issue

March 20, 2019, 5:46 pm
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I am using Power InRoads V8i SS4, Version 08.11.09.878.

I am having issues displaying one manhole onto an "existing profile" that is created based on a roadway centerline alignment. The manhole is offset from the alignment so I am projecting the manhole onto the alignment profile.

I've set both the Network "From:" and "To:" option to the manhole ID I want to display, but the manhole displays as 1 horizontal line, set at the RIM elevation. The one lateral that connects into the manhole is also correctly displayed below. See below.

I've noticed that the "Maximum Depth" property is for some reason affecting the display of the manhole. Even though the lateral pipe should force the bottom of the manhole elevation down, if I don't select the pipe in the "Create Profile" menu (remember I am only selecting the manhole), the profile displays the manhole as if there is no pipe connected to the manhole, hence the one horizonal RIM elevation line (it's actually all 4 structure lines (top bottom right left lines), all set to the same elevation. The Maximum Depth of the manhole is set to 0.00, but if I increase this value, the profile then displays the bottom of the manhole based on the value. See below. I can therefore manually set the Maximum Depth to make sure the bottom is displayed correctly, based on my outgoing pipe elevation and 0.3m "depth below invert" property, but I would like to know why this error is happening and why the manhole does not display by itself, based on it's true bottom elevation which is set based on the outgoing pipe elevation and the depth below invert property. I don't understand why the "Maximum Depth" property should affect how profiles are displayed... seems like it's only there to give you an error if the profile is "taller" than the value in that box.. 

Additionally, when trying to display another manhole and lateral (manhole has said lateral connecting to it plus 1 other lateral pipe), the manhole is displayed with essentially 3 connecting pipes showing since it's showing both ends of the pipe which is in the in/out page direction. See below. If I only selected the manhole and the horz pipe (per right screenshot below), I don't get why both ends of the other pipe would show up on the profile. Only the pipe that connects into the manhole should be shown... 

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SUE过滤器问题

March 20, 2019, 6:52 pm
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新建节点并在空文件中放置，添加过滤器，当选择该过滤器时提示“未将对象引用设置到对象的实例，请问这是什么原因

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How to import old classic alignment files created using "BENTLEY HORIZONTAL / VERTICAL ALIGNMENT TO ASCII"?

March 20, 2019, 11:47 pm
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I looked through numerous websites, documentations & tried the Text Import Wizard but no avail. Apparently the ability to import ASCII alignments files is deprecated since Inroads SS3. It appears the Text Import Wizard can only do simple imports with XYZ, which is useless.

Can someone please point me to the right direction? Many thanks.

* BENTLEY HORIZONTAL ALIGNMENT TO ASCII
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* Alignment name: Northbound Tunnel
* Alignment description: Up Track Centerline
* Alignment style: default
* Input Factor: 1.0000
*
{ TYPE STATION RADIUS X_CRD Y_CRD DIRECTION SPI_LENGTH
LIN 119262.6510 0.0000 824682.6963 837247.2420 151^45'35.7895" 0.0000
SPI 122013.3882 0.0000 825984.2539 834823.9172 151^45'35.7895" 160.0000
CIR 122173.3882 -5000.0000 826060.7104 834683.3689 150^50'35.5526" 0.0000
SPI 122558.0253 0.0000 826260.6546 834355.2765 146^26'21.5832" 160.0000
LIN 122718.0253 0.0000 826350.5218 834222.9009 145^31'21.3463" 0.0000

*Alignment name : V_North Bound
*Alignment description : Up Track Vertical Profile
*
{ TYPE STATION ELEVATION SLOPE VC_LENGTH
LIN 117027.509 -27.37200 0.00300 0.00000
PAR 120777.458 -16.12200 0.00300 119.9820
LIN 120897.440 -16.12200 -0.00300 0.00000
PAR 122283.584 -20.27900 -0.00300 329.9360
LIN 122613.520 -17.64000 0.01900 0.00000

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Feature Definition

March 21, 2019, 3:25 am
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Hi,

After creating alignment am trying to change the feature definition for alignment ,when i click drop down list as shown in image its not showing the list of feature definitions .Can i know the reason and how to fix it?

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